Topic: News and Updates / Dev'il banished

Since I do not have time to devote to Dev’il, I’m officially announcing discontinuing my work on this.

I do have unrealistic desires to make a new Dev’il based on the updated Beast and providing Git, SVN, and Hg backing for Changes, as well as content-typed attachments for tickets. Alas, time is not my friend.

I’ll leave a page up with a link to the source, but I’ll be taking down this Dev’il instance in the near future.

Thanks for the interest and good luck with developing intelligent and user-friendly collaboration systems.

Topic: News and Updates / Do you intend to continue development of Devil?

This looks cool.

Yes, as with any opinions, they are most suited to a particular context.

Topic: News and Updates / Do you intend to continue development of Devil?

FYI: Israeli Ruby group decided to ‘adopt’ devil as a group project (we needed something simple yet interesting enough to work on).

I suppose being a group project the priorities will be quite different and I think it will move into a much less ‘opinionated’ direction with time :) So I guess we’ll need to change the name soon to something different as it will move in different direction.

You can check out the progress (not much right now :) at http://devil.rubyisrael.org/

Topic: Installation / Can Access Be Restricted

This is pretty simple – i went through and used the :login_required filter on the controllers and restricted access so that all content requires login (which is what i wanted)

I also removed the signup option as i don’t want just anybody signing up – longer term i’ll come up with an admin side function for me to add users, at the moment i create them through the console.

I also hide some functionality so that only the admins can see it (such as changes) – this is done using the admin? function and :admin_required filter.

Topic: Development / why hidden operations links?

In the meantime i’ve submitted a patch that will remove the ‘hiding’ and ‘unhiding’

http://devil.brightredglow.com/tickets/20

It should do the trick

Topic: Development / What about Beast?

Any more thoughts on this topic after 4 months?

Has anyone tried putting the two back together with git? Wonder how far they have really diverged.

Topic: Development / why hidden operations links?

ohh. good idea. that solves my main problem of difficulty of aiming the mouse on a hidden link.

Great!

Topic: News and Updates / Do you intend to continue development of Devil?

Yes, but probably not according to your time frame. ;) Feel free to use the code.

Topic: Development / Upcoming features

No development yet. My first project is Rubinius and that has taken a lot of time recently. I will be working on this again soon.

Topic: Development / why hidden operations links?

The hidden links for edits etc are from Beast. Dev’il extends Beast and tried to be consistent with it.

The hidden links aids readability and the clean appearance of the content. I have plans to make them more usable. I don’t agree that they are not good from a usability standpoint per se. The main issue with them is discovery (for new or infrequent users) and target. My plan is to make them appear on mouse movement over the page and fade with mouse inactivity.

Topic: News and Updates / Do you intend to continue development of Devil?

subj.

Topic: Development / why hidden operations links?

Those hidden links might look cool, but are not that good from the usability standpoint. The problem is most obvious on the pages that have the ‘Mouse over ..’ help texts. It would take less space to just put the links and versions there. I started moving them to the sidebar in our local setup. Should I start posting the patches, or it is against one for the ‘opinions’? :-)

Topic: Development / Upcoming features

Any progress on tagging? Going to use acts_as_taggable or smth else? Since I need this feature I’m willing to help, so if you have some incomplete patch etc, please share :)

Topic: Development / #2 Edit mode not working

I just had a similar problem with an app I’m developing. A google search later, I came across this:

http://toolmantim.com/article/2006/9/19/safari_urls_the_semi_colon_and_one_night_in_paris

Or, the essential info:

I had the same problem on my test site (it worked fine for me locally). I was using http authentication to hide my test site from the world. and it turned out that safari wasn’t sending the authentication information if the semicolon is present in the URL so lighttpd was returning a 401 error. You can spot this in the server access logs (note the 3rd element, the username, is blank). (Tom Riley)

In both instances, the site was behind basic or digest auth.

Topic: Development / question about tickets.user_id

vitaly: user_id is intended to be the creator of the ticket, while owner_id is the user who “takes” the ticket, possibly indicating that she is working on it. I should audit the actual implementation, though.

Topic: Development / question about tickets.user_id

Can you please explain the intended usage of tickets.user_id. At first I though its an ‘assigned_to’ user, but then I see in the code that it is set to current_user in most actions of the controller and not only in ‘take’ as I would expect.

Topic: Installation / SVN Error

Great, I’m eager to update when the change is in.

One of these days I’ll find an excuse to use PostgreSQL (and figure out how to pronounce it :-)

Topic: Development / #2 Edit mode not working

I’d suspect Apache and something with URL rewrites, but that’s just a WAG.

Topic: Development / #2 Edit mode not working

Yes! That is what is so perplexing. Why would it work at brightredglow.com, but not on my site? I haven’t had time to do any investigation since my posts a few days ago.

Topic: Development / #2 Edit mode not working

Is it working for you in Safari at devil.brightredglow.com? It’s working for me.

Topic: Development / #2 Edit mode not working

Ok, just saw you added that it manifests with Safari. I’ll try that here (I generally use FF so that might explain why I didn’t notice it).

Topic: Development / #2 Edit mode not working

I must say, this stumps me. I’m assuming it’s working for you somewhere? If Apache is in the mix, have you checked that the URL is sane (e.g. no trailing / bug or something)?

Can you run the tests on that setup? Or development mode?

Topic: Installation / SVN Error

Ok, sounds good. I’ll migrate to change_type.

I don’t like MySQL because they don’t care about standards. Quick and dirty or whatever else works. Today I had to rewrite SQL because IS isn’t an operator until 5.0.1.

I like PostgreSQL because they have been very concerned about standards from the beginning. They are ACID compliant (I wouldn’t trust that about MySQL ever). They were concerned about correctness at the start and then optimized. Over the past 8 years I’ve had almost uniformly good experiences with PostgreSQL.

So, yeah, definitely check it out. I use it without pains on OS X and Ubuntu 6.06, but have also used it on Debian 3.1 and any number of Redhat distros.

Topic: Installation / SVN Error

I just checked the referenced link above—no “change_type” is listed.

You don’t like MySQL because…? I’ve heard good things about Postgres, but have not actually used it yet.

Topic: Installation / SVN Error

Hmm, have I mentioned that I hate MySQL?

Perhaps change_type? If you assure me that’s not a MySQL reserved word, I’ll change alter fix it or whatever.